Login
Username:

Password:

Remember me



Lost Password?

Register now!
Main Menu
New Members
Isaac97 2012/9/4
KOPIKAU 2012/9/3
tansl 2012/6/27
tjee0512 2012/3/29
teresaong 2012/3/24

Browsing this Thread:   1 Anonymous Users



(1) 2 3 »


SAPP's vote of no confidence against PM
Just can't stay away
Joined:
2008/1/18 2:36
From Kuching
Posts: 2294
Offline
This is a very very very very interesting political news in Sabah.

KOTA KINABALU: The Sabah Progressive Party (SAPP) has lost confidence in Prime Minister Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi, it said at a press conference here Wednesday.

In the coming sitting of the Parliament session on Monday, its two Members of Parliament will support a vote of no confidence against the Prime Minister, the party said.

Whether its MPs table the vote of no confidence, or whether other MPs will do it, would be determined in due course, it said in a statement.

SAPP’s two MPs are Datuk Eric Enchin Majimbun (P171 Sepanggar) and Datuk Dr Chu Soon Bui (P190 Tawau).

The party also has four state representatives.

Talk had been rife Wednesday morning that SAPP was going to abandon the Barisan Nasional coalition and defect to the Pakatan Rakyat alliance.

The party is running a poll on its blog, asking members of the public whether it should stay on in Barisan, leave the coalition but remain independent, or join Pakatan.

At press time, there were 532 votes tallied, with 80% (428 votes) asking SAPP to join Pakatan. Only 1% (10 votes) urged it to stay on with Barisan.


http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp? ... 20080618143048&sec=nation

Posted on: 2008/6/18 14:54
Transfer the post to other applications Transfer


Re: SAPP's vote of no confidence against PM
Just can't stay away
Joined:
2008/1/18 2:36
From Kuching
Posts: 2294
Offline
open this website
http://sapphq.blogspot.com/

look on the right column
and make your vote.


Posted on: 2008/6/18 14:56
Transfer the post to other applications Transfer


Re: SAPP's vote of no confidence against PM
Home away from home
Joined:
2007/7/10 0:08
From Singapore - Kuching
Posts: 2661
Offline
I have no confidence to the deputy prime minister as well. It's the same! Care for a change? Charge up and Fire?

Posted on: 2008/6/18 14:59
_________________
There's nothing in two if it's not properly attached.

Weddings | Pre-Weddings @ Halycube.
Bloggie @ Halyconstudio.
Transfer the post to other applications Transfer


Re: SAPP's vote of no confidence against PM
Home away from home
Joined:
2008/4/16 11:03
From Terra
Posts: 2237
Offline
Finally, someone brave enough to voice out the no confidence vote. Been waiting a while for this, though curiously enough, the heat is felt everywhere but in the capital. KL doesn't seem to be bothered one bit when I asked around; they just say 'Badawi is trying to open up dissent and make it more democratic.'

Nonetheless, the feel-good factor we've been spoon-fed with over the past few months has finally abetted. However, question is, how many members of parliament would stand up for the no confident motion?

p.s. I actually thought I saw SUPP's vote of no confidence against PM, and not SAPP. If it were the latter, finally, someone has a backbone.

Posted on: 2008/6/18 18:05
_________________
Meliora Cogito | [insert text here]
Transfer the post to other applications Transfer


Re: SAPP's vote of no confidence against PM
Home away from home
Joined:
2005/12/30 12:58
From Kuchingite
Posts: 3875
Offline
what were the feel good factors again? Now, weighting the difference, seems like more bad then good.

Posted on: 2008/6/18 18:13
_________________
2012, where will we be the day after tomorrow? Ans: Still here la. www.resuree.blogspot.com
Transfer the post to other applications Transfer


Re: SAPP's vote of no confidence against PM
Home away from home
Joined:
2008/4/16 11:03
From Terra
Posts: 2237
Offline
Pumping money into the economy, the rising RM value, more 'foreign investment' coming in, the KLSE almost reaching 1500 points, 'respect' within the international community, inflation managed at reasonable rates, that feel good stuff which seemed plausible and within grasp in 2004-2005 but then came to a screeching halt in 2007-2008. All the talk of an improved boarse, more money and more international standing power seemed to have disappeared like sandcastles by the beach.

Posted on: 2008/6/18 18:17
_________________
Meliora Cogito | [insert text here]
Transfer the post to other applications Transfer


Re: SAPP's vote of no confidence against PM
Home away from home
Joined:
2007/6/26 13:27
Posts: 504
Offline
is this SAPP opposition party or some party within BN? if it's BN, that would be better...

shall we in sarawak do the same?

Posted on: 2008/6/19 9:23
Transfer the post to other applications Transfer


Re: SAPP's vote of no confidence against PM
Home away from home
Joined:
2007/8/29 12:17
Posts: 303
Offline
yes.SAPP is a party within BN its something like SUPP in S'wak.The PM has been making alot of changes lately and alot of people cant accept the drastic change since the hike of fuel prices.

Posted on: 2008/6/19 10:57
_________________
8oO8
Transfer the post to other applications Transfer


Re: SAPP's vote of no confidence against PM
Just can't stay away
Joined:
2008/1/18 2:36
From Kuching
Posts: 2294
Offline
Two ways for MPs to push for a no-confidence motion
By Raynore Mering

KUCHING: There are two ways that members of parliament (MPs) can apply for a motion for a vote of no confidence motion in the Dewan Rakyat against a prime minister.

They can either apply for it as an ordinary motion, which has to be done 14 days in advance; or as a subtantiative motion under Rule 18 of Parliament’s Standing Orders, which needs only two days but has to satisfy three criteria.

Either way, it seems unlikely that the Sabah Progressive Party (SAPP) can move a motion this coming Monday against Prime Minister Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi, who is also the Barisan Nasional (BN) chairman.

Deputy Speaker of parliament Datuk Dr Wan Junaidi Tuanku Jaafar (pictured right) yesterday said that the country’s highest decision-making body had not received any application for a motion from SAPP.

Though he agreed that Rule 18 might be what SAPP is gunning for, he believed that they would not be able to satisfy the three criteria.

Speaker Datuk Pandikar Amin Mulia will chair the sitting on Monday.

Junaidi told The Borneo Post that for the Speaker to allow the motion under Rule 18, it had to be of a specific issue, of public interest and required to be expedited or that it was an issue that required urgency.

“You may be able to satisfy the first two criteria but you may not be able to satisfy the last one, so it wouldn’t be allowed. You must be able to give your reasons why something is of urgency because some of the reasons have already been handled or tackled by the government,” he said.

Junaidi, the Santubong MP, pointed out that issues in Sabah like illegal immigration and the steep rise in fuel prices were already being tackled by the government and so there was no longer any urgency.

“If you look at it, if you put it under Rule 18, it would be rejected because the criteria are not necessarily satisfied. One of the basis is the question of development. Are you saying there is no development in Sabah? Since When? And now the prime minister has announced an additional allocation of RM1 billion to the state.”

Having said that, Junadi agreed that it was up to SAPP’s two MPs to apply for the motion under Rule 18 as an individual motion. If it is an ordinary motion, he said the Speaker would weigh it technically.

SAPP president Datuk Yong Teck Lee told a press conference in Kota Kinabalu yesterday that the party’s two MPs — Datuk Eric Enchin Majimbun (Sepanggar) and Datuk Dr Chua Soon Bui (Tawau) — would support a motion for a vote of no confidence against Abdullah on Monday.

“Whether the motion will be tabled by our MPs or another MP will be decided in due course,” he said.

Four reasons were given at the press conference for backing the no-confidence vote.

Briefly, they were the lack of concrete actions to tackle illegal immigrants; the government had allegedly failed to provide “holistic economic solutions” to the state; the SAPP MPs would fail in their role as elected representatives if they do not raise issues like corruption, transparency, wastage of resources and accountability; and the party believed that if the top leadership could not perform, Abdullah should make way for others to take over.

Speaking as an MP, Junaidi felt that SAPP was just a small party and if they were not happy with the Barisan Nasional (BN), they could not choose to remain in the coalition and go against the prime minister.

“Now you cannot have it both ways. You want to still be in the BN but you want to ‘hantam’ (slam) the prime minister. You cannot do that. Under the principle of collective responsibility in the practice of Westminster, you cannot do that.




“So the most honourable thing for them (the two SAPP MPs) to do is to resign from SAPP, otherwise SAPP can leave BN. If they don’t want to resign from SAPP, then they are doing something which is against the grain of BN understanding,” said Junaidi.
(*remark* maybe should tell this to "SOMEONE" instead of the party members? lol)




He said the SAPP leaders had to think carefully about what they were going to do because the BN could decide to suspend their two MPs, though the duo could still attend sittings.

He felt that if SAPP did not take action against its members for behaving in such a way, then it was in cahoots with those who were against the BN.

“This is not the BN spirit. The coalition agreed that you must be one for all and all for one. I was a very harsh critic of the government when I was a backbencher but not to the extent of targeting the prime minister like that. It is not correct; he is the leader of the house, he is the leader of the country.

“All SAPP is trying to do is to gain political mileage for themselves and their leadership is weak for not being able to control the discipline of their MPs,” he said.

When told that the SAPP leadership was supporting the motion if it was tabled, Junaidi replied: “If that is the case, they should leave the BN.”

http://www.theborneopost.com/?p=37122

Posted on: 2008/6/19 12:31
Transfer the post to other applications Transfer


Re: SAPP's vote of no confidence against PM
Just can't stay away
Joined:
2008/1/18 2:36
From Kuching
Posts: 2294
Offline
Quote:

azaz412 wrote:
is this SAPP opposition party or some party within BN? if it's BN, that would be better...

shall we in sarawak do the same?


That won't happen, read the newspaper today. see all the respond given by the sarawakian government.

Posted on: 2008/6/19 12:38
Transfer the post to other applications Transfer



(1) 2 3 »



You can view topic.
You cannot start a new topic.
You cannot reply to posts.
You cannot edit your posts.
You cannot delete your posts.
You cannot add new polls.
You can vote in polls.
You cannot attach files to posts.
You cannot post without approval.

[Advanced Search]